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Bone Gnawer Moot

May 7, 2003

Note from Ryan: ((about 10 minutes into it... just now thought of archiving))

Cap Rountree (Alpha, Foggy Mountain Throwdown): *Watches and listens.*

Gabrielle Tureck: * she looks at Ari* Danni was her own woman ..she knew there was a chance of this happening....and noone could of stopped her and you know it...ain't no blame here needed

Rudy "Nine Iron" McMurdo: I asked Twomoons and he basically brushed me off.

Riley ~Coat of Many Colors~: *frowns, shaking her head* I like Moony, I really do...but the idea of a non-Gnawer Grand Elder just ain't right....

Cindy Ramirez: *hears Steel... 2moons as GE and Linda as Warder? Is he insane?*

Wields-Plastic-Death (FMT): *looks to Rudy a moment then points with the cigar* if yous can gets rid ofs 'em, you's be the first.

Riley ~Coat of Many Colors~: *glances at Rudy, shrugs* Maybe 'cause they have no where else ta go...I dunno, didn't get to ask. They've been here a long while though.

Sofia "Crawling-Roach" Carbucci: ~Sofia tilts her head in Riley's direction.~ Might be a bit more difficult to get one that is Gnawer instead of one that ain't.

Georgia Hooper: *Nods about the Grand Elder comment from Riley*

Rudy "Nine Iron" McMurdo: They probably think we're too weak or some bullshit to run the caern on our own..

Steeleyes(MotC): *looks to Ari*..decaire yerself TC at the moot...thing is*counts off fingers*.1..we got NO master of the howl..whoes galliard here??..2 keeper of the land is Val...3..MoTR is Lex.. yea we need to take over.. but we get in the Gets faces know whats gonna hapopen..were gonna get our asses handed to us..

Gabrielle Tureck: Sofia> unless you want to get beat down * she looks at the rest* Then give it to Jublian...he's the other one up for it.....not much of a soulution till someone here gets the rank

Riley ~Coat of Many Colors~: *nods to Sofia* Yeah, I know...but it's Rat's caern, who do you think she's gonna want? Fact is, there ain't no easy solution to this...

Steeleyes(MotC): *sighs* ..why TM?? our other choice is Jublian...anyone here want THAT???*looks around*

Rudy "Nine Iron" McMurdo: Hey Steel, is there any way we can make it a non physical challenge? Those brick heads couldn't possibly go toe to toe when it's something for the mind instead of the muscle..

Wields-Plastic-Death (FMT): *looks at Steel a little, thinking* maybe look to Rabble? *thinks* or blacktop-swamp sept?

Ari Ford ~Quick Fingers~ {SR Beta}: From what I understand, and I wasn't here in the beginning, but this place started with a skeleton crew. A pack of Get decided it was their duty to protect the place, and they've all shed blood and sweat along with the rest of us. BUT, somewhere in all this, they've gotten the idea that their law counts above all of ours. They've even gone so far as to "punish" a pregnant Cub with silver, despite the fact that no formal charges were brought, and no philodox involved. *points to Cindy*

Cindy Ramirez: Gab>> The midget as GE? Hell no...

Riley ~Coat of Many Colors~: *shakes her head at Steel* No, but it still amount to the same thing if Moony gets it, that the other tribes have more of an influence than we do in our own sept...

Gabrielle Tureck: Rat knows of our situation...she ain't happy with it....but I know she'd tolerate Jason till a gnawer took least he's talked to her....Jublian ain't done shit

Sofia "Crawling-Roach" Carbucci: ~She snorts.~ There's never an easy solution.

Steeleyes(MotC): Rudy:one being challanged makes the think the Get are gonna say ANYTHING besides combat?

Riley ~Coat of Many Colors~: *glances to Rudy* I dunno about that...they wouldn't have lasted as long if they were stupid, and I don't think they are. Not ta mention no one's really high enough rank to challenge Jublain...and if they are, good luck. *nods to Ari at mention of what they did to Cindy, frowning*

Rudy "Nine Iron" McMurdo: *Gruffs* There any way we can force it? I mean, stuff like TC kinda lends itself to a mind challenge.

Steeleyes(MotC): Wields: *nods*..or mabee send off to the Sept of the Green in NY...if anyone knows Momma Larissa would

Georgia Hooper: *Turns her flat-top cut head to look at Cindy, shocked about what happened to her*

Cindy Ramirez: *blinks a bit.... being put on the spot*

Riley ~Coat of Many Colors~: *nods to Steeleyes, frowning* Yeah, we might just need ta get oustide help...much as I hate to say it.

Steeleyes(MotC): well*looks to Ari*..besides you..and linda..who are philodoxes?

Rudy "Nine Iron" McMurdo: I heard a big heavy Gnawer sept was in D.C.

Ari Ford ~Quick Fingers~ {SR Beta}: There is no TC at the moment. Eddie's gone for a bit, Harry's awol, if I've heard right. I'll at least volunteer my services. And we're it, Steel, just me and Linda.

Riley ~Coat of Many Colors~: *tilts her head at Rudy, nodding in approval* That's closer...*blinks at Steel's question, can't think of any more Phillys*

Gabrielle Tureck: * shakes her head* Outsider? as if a grand elder Bone Gnawers gonna give us any power....our tribe ain't been in power even when danni was here...

Ari Ford ~Quick Fingers~ {SR Beta}: We don't NEED outside help! *raising her voice* What we need is to step up for ourselves. The next time one of them fucks with you, bring fucking charges! Don't just let it slide, protest! Don't take their shit lying down!

Steeleyes(MotC): then ari..decair yerself TC..sayin we need it at the moot..

Riley ~Coat of Many Colors~: What's Eddie doing, by the way? Any way he could be considered?

Gabrielle Tureck: Ed's on his rank challange

Ianthe Rumshoe: Shows up...late.

Sofia "Crawling-Roach" Carbucci: ((Need to bail for a little while. Sofia will be sitting quietly in the meantime.))

Steeleyes(MotC): Gab*smirks* you aint seen momma Larrisa stare down a Fang..AND a Get..*smirks*..

Steeleyes(MotC): what ranks Ed going fer?

Riley ~Coat of Many Colors~: Hope he gets back soon then, he's needed....*shakes her head, frowning*

Georgia Hooper: *Grins at Ari. That lady oughta be a cheerleader!*

Gabrielle Tureck: Steel> *shruggs* Don't care if she can kick there ass....we need to fix this ourselves

Ari Ford ~Quick Fingers~ {SR Beta}: I'm not saying we should all go give a collective "fuck you" to Jublain. That's gonna get a lot of us hurt, and badly. But Rudy made a good point. We fight smarter, not harder.

Ianthe Rumshoe: She catches her breath, listening and not assking for elaboration for the moment.

Steeleyes(MotC): Aris got a point.. you have ANY problems..bring um to me. or Linda ..GOT IT??*looksa round*..were the highest ranks here..dont make it personall..or yer gonna get yer asses beat

Rudy "Nine Iron" McMurdo: *Rudy grins, and gets courage to speak in front of these people who been around longer than he* Yeah, didn't Gaia give us the brains and balls to be survivors.. That's gotta mean something when taking on the Krauts.. Rat wouldnt'a shown us her favor if we weren't smart enough to figure shit like this out..

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): OOC Sorry I am grandmother fell today...just got back from the hospital.

Riley ~Coat of Many Colors~: *finishes the Stew off, nodding to Ari* Sounds like an what else do you suggest, eh? *nods to Linda when she enters*

Cindy Ramirez: *nods, hearing Steel..... any problems take them to Steel... check*

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): *enters* Fucking....warder crap...sorry couldn't leave Moony was doing something. Now whats up? *enters the gather*

Steeleyes(MotC): *nods to Linda*..

Steeleyes(MotC): Linda: were talking about how to retake our caern..

Wields-Plastic-Death (FMT): *gets up and gets a bowl of stew for Linda, rushing it over to her with a bigass grin*

Riley ~Coat of Many Colors~: *nods to Steel, approving* Yeah, better t'bring it to Ari an' Linda if this happens again, we need t'support each other...

Ari Ford ~Quick Fingers~ {SR Beta}: *nodding to Linda a bit, glad to see her, then looks back to Riley* Just what I said. Stop being victims. I'll step up to do what I can, but honestly if Eddie or Harry show up, they'll most likely punt me in favor of a higher ranked TC.

Georgia Hooper: *Looks up at Linda, who is pretty cool.*

Riley ~Coat of Many Colors~: (add 'and Steel')

Rudy "Nine Iron" McMurdo: Just wish I was around long enough to go for Rank..

Cindy Ramirez: *quirks a brow at Wields... why is he kissing her ass?*

Riley ~Coat of Many Colors~: *takes a swig* Not a victim, but if I see shit happening, I'll make sure there's someone who can stop it...

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): Harry will never be TC. Quite honestly hes lucky if the totem lets him stay in my pack so do not fear him.

Riley ~Coat of Many Colors~: *grins to Rudy* Eh, stick around long enough and you'll get there...

Steeleyes(MotC): Ari: i was cliath when i stepped ones challanged me yet

Riley ~Coat of Many Colors~: Harry? I haven't seen him around in ages...*looks to Linda to see if she has*

Wields-Plastic-Death (FMT): *rushes back to Cindy and Ga, reverting to lupus and lying across the two*

Cindy Ramirez: *finishes her second bowl and sets the empty bowl down... and scratches Wields' head*

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): As for retaking the Cearn...*looks at them* Whats with that crap? We don't need someone in what has deteriorated into a figure head position to have influence. We are the majority and can influence by just being there. They push too far in a direction we don't like....we fucking swarm as one. Unified and we can get our way anyway. You don't need to have titles to have power.

Georgia Hooper: *Props her chin on her elbows, which are embedded into Wields' side since he's lying on her legs*

Ari Ford ~Quick Fingers~ {SR Beta}: *nods to Linda* THAT'S what I've been trying to get them to understand. It's like... Civil disobedience. We don't have to fight them, we just have to ignore them, as a WHOLE.

Steeleyes(MotC): *nods to Linda..knowing the camp they both share*..wise words...

Cap Rountree (Alpha, Foggy Mountain Throwdown): You sayin' we oughter jus' kill 'em?

Wields-Plastic-Death (FMT): ~ws~ can we please?

Riley ~Coat of Many Colors~: *takes a swig, frowning in thought as she listens* I'd disagree there, title does make a difference...not that we can't take our influence back without it.

Cindy Ramirez: *looks at Cap.... that's a damn good idea!*

Rudy "Nine Iron" McMurdo: Mahandas Gandhi. Eye for an eye and the whole world goes blind. *Shakes his head at Cap*

Georgia Hooper: Uh, which ones're we supposed to look out for most? Ah mean, which are the pushiest ones?

Gabrielle Tureck: * she switches arms and shuffles her feet a bit*

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): Nope. Fenrir are useful buggers. I'm learning combat from em. Want my pack to as well. Right now as we stand ...yeah we could swarm them...but we'd loss half to a quarter of our number doing it. Thats really a measure for if we are really desperate. Please...anyone...if you feel I am wrong in that accessment tell me.

Steeleyes(MotC): Cap: they challanged Danni just because they THOUGHT she was plottin against them...what you think their gonna say if they hear us talkin like that?

Gabrielle Tureck: * she looks at Steel quirking a brow...he must of heard a different challange*

Riley ~Coat of Many Colors~: *looks to Steel, shrugs* I don't care if they do hear...they can't take down the entire tribe, an' we have a right to talk to each other bout this.

Rudy "Nine Iron" McMurdo: Crap, we're like friggen plotting the second Revolution. They'd probably try to take one or two of us out as an example.. Hell, I know I'd be dead, I mouthed off, probably on the shit list.

Steeleyes(MotC): the Get LIVE of brawlin..not many would be alive with all the battle scars they fight one..your gonna most likely loose...

Riley ~Coat of Many Colors~: *nods in agreement with Steel there* Exactly....

Wields-Plastic-Death (FMT): ~ws~ there's only two. Cap could kill 'em both before they got close *nods affirmatively, looking at Cap with a moment of hero worship*

Gabrielle Tureck: * she soflty sighs* Okay so what is the solution? Weknow how everyone feels about them being here ..but we tolerate them becuase they can fight?

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): Danni was stupid. *says it harshly* First she forgets rat and the tribe by banging some yote. And don't tell me thats right. Yotes kids are insane...that blood into are tribe is as bad as the Jackel. What did the Strider blood do us but give us eternal bad luck eh? Loosing us some mythical homeland. Yote blood aint much better. She forgot tribe so she could dally with some numbnuts to ease her pain. The problem is she wasn't some Claith who no one cares what she does....she was an athro...later an elder. As Grandmother she should have thought of the tribe before her self and she did not. Thats why she became a figure head. And a lesson learned...ratkin may be allies, but never trust them with secrets, they'll turn the tables when it's convienant.

Georgia Hooper: *Blinks at Wields and then looks at Cap also, wondering what kind of awesome powerhouse of a warrior this guy really is.*

Riley ~Coat of Many Colors~: *frowns and stands up when Linda talks about Danni* Enough about Danni, have some respect for the dead. This ain't about her anymore, and we need to talk about what we're going to do NOW, not bitch about the past...

Gabrielle Tureck: * she looks at Linda and wonders where she's going with this*

Cap Rountree (Alpha, Foggy Mountain Throwdown): *Leans back when Wields speaks, wanting no part of that concept.*

Ari Ford ~Quick Fingers~ {SR Beta}: Danni made mistakes *nodding her agreement with Linda* But the challenge that ended her life should NEVER have happened, and you know it, Linda. She died for a crime committed by a dead man. And none of us stopped it. That was our job, as philodoxes, and we both failed.

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): Fine....I won't bring her up...but she shouldn't be used as the example to teach our future either.

Steeleyes(MotC): You declaireing yerself GE Linda?..*crosses arms*..and i agree with Riley...let Danni rest in piece

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): The death was an accident. If I wasn't sure of that I'd be screaming for us to swarm now.

Riley ~Coat of Many Colors~: *nods to Ari* Exactly, it shouldn't have happened...but we're not gonna get anywhere by talkin' about that now. If this meeting is going to have any results, we can't just keep going in circles.

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): No way in hell.

Ianthe Rumshoe: She listens, leaning against a nearby surface.

Riley ~Coat of Many Colors~: *nods to Steel, glad he backed her up...frowning at Linda, tense for the first time in this meeting*

Cindy Ramirez: *accident... hell why should we trust someone who rips people to ribbons by ~accident~?...... she scratches Wields' head some more*

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): I say the Fenrir should be watched...but with our tribes present would be desperate circumstances indeed that should have us throw half our lives away ousting the fenrir. Yes they are that good. And the past has shown us that ratkin assassins are ineffective and giving them any leverage just leads to future grief.

Rudy "Nine Iron" McMurdo: Who cares who she was banging if she was doing a good job? The rest of the room here seems ta give her enough respect..

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): *looks at Cindy with the height of contempt* Why are we listening to a cub?

Steeleyes(MotC): so unless Eddie comes back and decalirs himself GE..we got either Two moons or topic.none of us like it..but its what were stuck with

Cindy Ramirez: ((she thought that Linda... she ain't said a word))

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): You weren't here to see the farce it was. Rat spirits were even angry. It wasn't good.

Riley ~Coat of Many Colors~: *shakes her head at mention of the Fenrir* If nothing happens to them, their paranoia will see to it that they'll make somethin' out of it anyway....

Ianthe Rumshoe: "She does have a point. If someone's that high in rank...shouldn't they be able to control the damage they do?"

Riley ~Coat of Many Colors~: Linda...enough. *crosses her arms* Steel's right, we need to get to the next topic, this is wasting time.

Ianthe Rumshoe: ((oh, I hought she said it too. DLP then))

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): (DLP then but it looked IC to me and spoken)

Ari Ford ~Quick Fingers~ {SR Beta}: *sighs a bit as things get a bit off track* QUET!!!!

Ari Ford ~Quick Fingers~ {SR Beta}: ((or QUIET, even. *sigh* Oi.))

Cindy Ramirez: *just sits there... knows better than to speak up... especially now that uber-bitch is here...*

Riley ~Coat of Many Colors~: *takes a deep breath, nodding to Ari when she yells out*

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): *goes silent* Your right...I'm letting emotions run away with me.

Georgia Hooper: *Prods Wields with her elbow while shifting around to get more comforatble*

Wields-Plastic-Death (FMT): *gets prodded and resettles himself once Ga's stopped moving*

Steeleyes(MotC): ((players gotta run...steelwould stay and i think riley knows how i think..she can voice my opinion))

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): Though is this Fenrir thing resolved?

Gabrielle Tureck: * she looks at Linda* What thing?

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): How to handle them?

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): That was the issue right?

Steeleyes(MotC): ((see yea ll laters..runnin late..GONE))

Gabrielle Tureck: * she can't help but chukle at that * Uhhh right

Riley ~Coat of Many Colors~: *frowns at mention of the Fenrir* To not let them get away with shit? Sounds good to me...

Georgia Hooper: ((Bye Steelee!))

Ari Ford ~Quick Fingers~ {SR Beta}: No, it's not resolved. It's never resolved. Everyone talks in circles and no one agrees on anything and THIS is why we're getting collectively FUCKED! *the cheerleader has lost her temper*

Wields-Plastic-Death (FMT): OOC:and you had to make me imagine a cheerleader saying that line in cheer-format. you don't wanna know what the gesture on "FUCKED" was *G*

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): Fine...who thinks it a good idea to go to war with the Fenrir openly? There will be alot of deaths do not kid yourselves. *looks around*

Georgia Hooper: *Frowns and rubs her right eyebrow, almost speaking up*

Ianthe Rumshoe: ((I wanna know!! *G*))

Cap Rountree (Alpha, Foggy Mountain Throwdown): ((*G* Lemme hear it.))

Riley ~Coat of Many Colors~: Not open war, that's stupid...but there's gotta be another way. *pushes the bowl aside, mostly empty but she's not hungry any more*

Wields-Plastic-Death (FMT): OOC:Here's a hint, it involved Kari and a pair of pompons. I'll say no more

Rudy "Nine Iron" McMurdo: *Huffs.. They'd almost got everything resolved until Linda showed up.. He sits back down next to Riley and mutters*

Ari Ford ~Quick Fingers~ {SR Beta}: ((Sickos, all of you. *L*)) *she shakes her head at Linda* We can't war against them. But we CAN cease to give them power.

Riley ~Coat of Many Colors~: *tilts her head to hear what Rudy's muttering, speaks quietly to him for a moment*

Ianthe Rumshoe: "I don't think it's a good idea. and inasmuch as I personally feel at least one of them is casual about offing some of our number, I'm wondering if the 'Yard wouldn't be in a worse position without thier skills for now."

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): I think the former GE...this David tried another way against the worst of them...this Cole. The ratkin in the end betrayed the information which lead to the chain of events that took Danni's life. So using ratkin is NOT a way I'd advocate.

Wields-Plastic-Death (FMT): ~ws~ find them things to kill until they kill themselves?

Cap Rountree (Alpha, Foggy Mountain Throwdown): ((*G* You'll have to forgive him, he was raised without any manners. Plus, he's stoned to the fuckin' gills.))

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): Actually I am at a disadvantage. I came late. Tell me what WAS resolved and I'll go with it and then we can move on.

Riley ~Coat of Many Colors~: *smirks, shaking her head* Using the Ratkin would be like having a nuclear warhead....nah, not a good idea.

Georgia Hooper: *Whacks Wields in her excitement* Thazzit!

Wields-Plastic-Death (FMT): OOC:*ahem* its just a getting in-character device *G*

Wields-Plastic-Death (FMT): *yelps and ducks his head at the whap*

Rudy "Nine Iron" McMurdo: LInda, we'd already talked about it. We're not going in revolt, we're going Gandhi on their butts. Defering to you, Ari, and Steel if they get uppity.

Ari Ford ~Quick Fingers~ {SR Beta}: *nods to Wields* That's a good idea. *then blinks at Rudy, not sure how she got elected as "one to defer to"*

Georgia Hooper: Oops, sorry hun. *Licks the top of Wields' head. *

Rudy "Nine Iron" McMurdo: *Shrugs at Ari* You said you were gonna volunteer for TC, right?

Ari Ford ~Quick Fingers~ {SR Beta}: Yeah, but I'm still Cliath, Rudy.

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): *nods* Fair enough. This is my take on the Fenrir...I actually like some of em...but Steel and I both agreed when they was going for Danni it was fucking weak. It was an accident...I read the truth but I think we all agree it was a very convienent accident for them eh? Our sept needs them til we get better fighters. Hell I encourage you Ahrouns, if you can handle the abuse, to get trained up and LEARN from them. Meanwhile they want battle? Lets find them battle....there used to be about five or six Fenrir theres only three. Hell we is doing something right. But also grant them respect where they earn it. They have kept our shit from being over-run. Our tribe wasn't so organized in the past...we coulda been in deep shit.

Rudy "Nine Iron" McMurdo: *Smirks* I think rank's kinda bein thrown out the window for now.

Gabrielle Tureck: Okay so let me get this straight....when something happens we're suppost to like go to those two and complain?

Riley ~Coat of Many Colors~: *shrugs at Ari* Yeah, but it's worth a shot, right?

Riley ~Coat of Many Colors~: *shrugs lightly again* Yeah, there's less of them and they're still useful...I jus' don't like their attitude about us, getting too uppity.

Ari Ford ~Quick Fingers~ {SR Beta}: *nods to Linda* The Get are Gaia's tac-nukes, right? Let's go let them blow up elsewhere.

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): But if they go acceptionally gustapo on us we pull that passive resistance shit you all was talking about.

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): Might as well use tac nukes for us.

Gabrielle Tureck: * she shruggs as noone answers her*

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): OK now that I listened I like the basic approach....what was next?

Ianthe Rumshoe: She glances at Gabrielle. "I'm thinking that's what they complain to Gnawers in rank if the Get get out of line."

Ari Ford ~Quick Fingers~ {SR Beta}: That was as far as we got, Linda. You know how it goes when a dozen people wanna be heard at once.

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): Something happens complain to the next ranks our case all we got is fosterns...Steeleyes, myself....(mentions other fostern names)

Ari Ford ~Quick Fingers~ {SR Beta}: Oh, and I'm stepping up for TC at the next moot. I'll volunteer before then, if the situation arises.

Gabrielle Tureck: * she smiles to Ianthe* Thanks ..was just making sure I heard em right

Ianthe Rumshoe: She gives a grin and a thumbs up to Gabby then looks back to the speakers.

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): *smirks* Well Ari theres no Fenrir halfmoons around anymore....least Hadrian won't decide to challenge and take it from you. And besides Moony I don't see other halfmoons to challenge you. I could....but rumor has it I might be Warder when the dust settles. So I'll wait to see.

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): are we going to handle those Lords that be around?

Riley ~Coat of Many Colors~: *nods, doubting Ari's really going to face any opposition if she wants TC*

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): *looks around*

Rudy "Nine Iron" McMurdo: *Shrugs* Linda, if you become Warder, I'd like ta volunteer to be a Guardian then.

Riley ~Coat of Many Colors~: *frowns, forgot about the dang Lords* Hm...don't want one of them getting it.

Ari Ford ~Quick Fingers~ {SR Beta}: The Lords? I've barely heard a peep out of them, lately. *thinks* Not sure I've even seen one since Danni cut that one's hand off.

Rudy "Nine Iron" McMurdo: Wait, we got Shadders in out midst?

Wields-Plastic-Death (FMT): ~ws~ get get to kill 'em? *starts nipping at a flea or two*

Cindy Ramirez: *looks confused at Linda.... wondering what the Lords have done... she hadn't heard anything*

Ianthe Rumshoe: "How many Lords are there?"

Riley ~Coat of Many Colors~: *nods to Rudy, frowning* Yeah, they showed up not long ago...would rather not have 'em around but ...not my call.

Ari Ford ~Quick Fingers~ {SR Beta}: If we're talking about other tribes, we need to watch the Fangs. Especially Anders. I've been to Seven Lakes, and they were real keen to set up shop here in the event that things got..."unstable". Expect them to show up, and soon.

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): They are still here. Trying to join the sept proper. Luckily as far as I can see the Lords overextended themselves. In there bid to impress the sept...that female philodox made a farce out of the judgement between Moony and the Fenrir by going way to strict on some idiotic point. I mean the GW elder Don, also a halfmoon had to cancil her judgement and make a more realistic one. No....I think if I remind the council of that fine manuvear....remind the Fenrir above all else, considering they think she wronged them....that we can actually use the Fenrir to keep a check on those Lords. *smirks*

Riley ~Coat of Many Colors~: *nods at mention of the Fangs* Yeah, don't get that angle yet, don't like 'em either....

Ianthe Rumshoe: Lords, she hears. So, more than one. at least two. count on three to be safe.

Riley ~Coat of Many Colors~: *smirks, remembering that issue with the female Philodox*

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): Only two Lords.

Gabrielle Tureck: * she looks at Linda and frowns and shoves her hands in her pockets*

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): As far as the other was his bright idea we dress up as Spirals for the formori failed. He prides himself on infiltrating BSD hives and would be SOOO easy to use those very actions to discredit him if needbe. Both of them can be handled.

Ianthe Rumshoe: She nodds at Linda. "Thanks, rhya." She glances at Gab, making a kindergarten goofy face at her. for fun and comraderie, obviuosly.

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): Fangs *thinks* Anders and what was the other one?

Gabrielle Tureck: * she sticks her tounge out at Ianthe and grins*

Georgia Hooper: *Nods all knowledgeable, remembering her Grandma telling her Lords is like cereal bugs.*

Gabrielle Tureck: Aaron..the rebel without a clue

Cap Rountree (Alpha, Foggy Mountain Throwdown): *Leans back against the wall, then looks around for a spitcup.*

Riley ~Coat of Many Colors~: *tries to remember the other Fang* Anders is the only one I've seen so far...*smirks a little* And hey, if we c'n let the Lords make themselves look bad, why not....not worth trusting anyway.

Ianthe Rumshoe: She pretends to pick her nose and eat it in Gab's direction and pays attention again before they both get 'detention'.

Cindy Ramirez: *finishes her Mt. Dew and sets the bottle down*

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): Aaron is nothing. Hes the Fang equivelent of our rabble. Hes going through his Garou in deniel stage. Hes here to hide from his father. It's rather amusing. Anders though....what do we know about him beside that he was sent as a diplomat?

Gabrielle Tureck: * she grins at Inathe *

Ari Ford ~Quick Fingers~ {SR Beta}: They didn't say a lot about Anders, when I was at Seven Lakes, but... I kinda got the idea that he's here because they don't want him. Or something. I could be reading it wrong. But if he does say the word to the ears back home, they're gonna send their own TC down here...and possibly a pack of Ahrouns, but don't quote me on that one.

Riley ~Coat of Many Colors~: *smirks at mention of Anders* He wants to join a pack...might be a way to keep an eye on him.

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): *nods* Thats bad. If we swarm...Anders tattles on the Fangs and suddenly the Alpha tribe is all over our shit.

Rudy "Nine Iron" McMurdo: Just what we need. Fairy Fangs trying ta out-Get the Get so they can get in good with the place.

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): *looks at Riley* Good idea. But who wants to look after him?

Ari Ford ~Quick Fingers~ {SR Beta}: I think... If the Fangs from Seven Lakes show up, let me deal with them. They know me. They like me. And if Anders doesn't say anything, then they don't come. *glancing to Riley* Aren't the Banebiters short a Phillie?

Riley ~Coat of Many Colors~: *grimaces at that* I don't, but...Steel mentioned it, probably gonna go talk to Mitch.

Rudy "Nine Iron" McMurdo: Ah Key-rist, I don't wanna deal with a Fang.

Ianthe Rumshoe: "It should be a pack that's comprised of all gnawers...that way the pack isn't divided in thier loyalties."

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): It's a good manuver...but pack is family. They need to be able to work with him too.

Riley ~Coat of Many Colors~: *nods to Ari reluctantly* Yeah, haven't had one in...ever, really. But a friggin' Fang...

Ari Ford ~Quick Fingers~ {SR Beta}: *shrugs to Linda* So they put him on probation first. Don't bond him in immediately, just string him along for a bit, and maybe, wonder of wonders, he'll fit.

Rudy "Nine Iron" McMurdo: *Rudy looks worriedly to Riley*

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): Anders strikes me as a country bumkin type...slow of thought too...but that could be an act.

Riley ~Coat of Many Colors~: *glances to Rudy* Neither do I, but think we'd do to have a pack meeting soon. *nods to Linda* Exactly, pack's more'n's just an idea, will find out soon if it's worth getting into.

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): *nods*

Ari Ford ~Quick Fingers~ {SR Beta}: ((Guys, I gotta bail...))

Riley ~Coat of Many Colors~: *leans in to whisper to Rudy, when settles back* (and I need to get going, got work early)

Georgia Hooper: *Hears the country bumpkin thing and snickers*

Ari Ford ~Quick Fingers~ {SR Beta}: *nods just a little, listening to the others...this went slightly better than she'd hoped*

Cap Rountree (Alpha, Foggy Mountain Throwdown): *Chuckles, getting up to go get a paper cup out of the trashcan.*

Ari Ford ~Quick Fingers~ {SR Beta}: ((Ari'll be here till the end, I'm out! G'night!))

Riley ~Coat of Many Colors~: (*poofs*)

Ari Ford ~Quick Fingers~ {SR Beta}: *~*~*gone*~*~*

Rudy "Nine Iron" McMurdo: *Crossing his arms next to Riley, he listens*

Gabrielle Tureck: ( and has to poof as well)

Cindy Ramirez: *spots Cap heading for the trash... she hands him her Mt. Dew bottle to throw away for her... smiling*

Cap Rountree (Alpha, Foggy Mountain Throwdown): *Chuckles and sits down with the bottle, digging a flat can from his overalls pocket.*

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): *sighs* We are a family. We gotta start acting like it. My lasting anger at Danni is because she did not unify us as one. We call our higher ups mothers, fathers, and grandmothers because usually thats how they act. Maybe someday one of us can have that honor....*smirks* We do our best right?

Georgia Hooper: *Takes out the freshly refilled everclear flask and passes it first to Cap*

Cindy Ramirez: *scoots back a bit to rest her back against Cap's legs*

Wields-Plastic-Death (FMT): *nods to Linda* ~ws~ Cap's like a dad... *turns his gaze to the old-fart again*

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): Anyone have family concerns? Kinfolk that are in need of protection or food? Peeps having hard times? Yuppies deserving of alittle street action?

Cap Rountree (Alpha, Foggy Mountain Throwdown): *Takes a sip before handing the bottle back to Georgia, then packs his lip.*

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): *nods to cap* It's good to have your pack back with us. Sorry I had to be so harsh but that shit between you and the Fenrir was BS.

Ianthe Rumshoe: She shakes her head slowly. none for her, it seems.

Georgia Hooper: *Drinks and passes the flask along to whoever else is interested.*

Cap Rountree (Alpha, Foggy Mountain Throwdown): *Nods to Linda.* Unnerstood. I jus' don't wanter see m'pack tore apart 'cuz we didn't bow our heads or somethin'.

Ianthe Rumshoe: Never one to refuse a free drink, she swills a bit of Georgia's shit.

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): Yer tribemate panic'd cuz the Fenrir was civil like asking him to just relay a message about upcoming battle plans. I mean theres being upset at em because they are a pain in the ass.....but what set yer shit off was paranoia to the extreme. Gotta keep a lid on that. They are a violent lot but they aint as bad as all that.

Wields-Plastic-Death (FMT): Linda>>~ws~ they cut Cindy's tongue and tore the arms off the warder. and they killed Danni....

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): Anyone that shit is judged and done with. If theres nothing else I say we break out food and drinks if there is any. And a reminder here...what is said here is OUR shit. Our tribal business. This isn't to be spread around as rumor or gossup. Anyone who does that and I'll kick there ass if another Fostern don't.

Ianthe Rumshoe: "cut her tounge??? for what?"

Georgia Hooper: Jus' for the record, there's one o us as likes them, right? She was practicing with the big Get.

Rudy "Nine Iron" McMurdo: Hell, if the Get hears this we're gettin that open war I guess.

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): They lost major shit for what they did to Twomoons...despite the Don's intervention, Danni was unfortunate but I heard the truth was an accident. Though their challenge was on fucking weak grounds. As for Cindy......when did they do that? *saids curious*

Cap Rountree (Alpha, Foggy Mountain Throwdown): Jus' last night.

Cindy Ramirez: *doesn't say anything*

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): I know...Cassy. I like some of the Fenrir too. But for all that I will fucking judge them if they cross over the line....which has been too often for my liking as of late.

Ianthe Rumshoe: "why?" she asks again.

Cap Rountree (Alpha, Foggy Mountain Throwdown): They din't like the way she was talkin'.

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): Yes why....because quite honestly...theres little of Cindy to respect. Shes the eternal cub it seems for a reason.

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): Yeah very informational Cap...what did she say?

Cindy Ramirez: *just sits there quietly, sitting against Cap's legs... not looking at Linda*

Ianthe Rumshoe: She scoffs at the explination. "well, I don't like the way they are practicly cojoined, but I don't go around slashing thier asses to keep each other out of them..."

Cap Rountree (Alpha, Foggy Mountain Throwdown): Wal, she asked 'em what they was doin'. Why, I don't know--I shore wasn't 'bout to ask, long's they wasn't hurtin' th'Truck. They said they was changin' the oil, an' she asked 'em why, an' the big one said to make nosy kids ask dumb questions an' asked if it worked. She said it must've, seein' as he done asked one. He got out f'um under, she apologized, an' he backhanded her anyways. Then the short one argied it with Doc some, she said somethin' about hittin' a pregnant woman, an' he cut her tongue wide open. Said couldn't nobody heal it up, neither.

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): *ponders her distinct dislike for Cindy at odds with what shes hearing*

Cindy Ramirez: *doesn't know why Cap's wasting his breath... Linda don't give a flying fuck what happens to her... she just sits there*

Ianthe Rumshoe: "Man. I wanna be able to boot someone in the nuts when I don't like what they are saying. I think I should just be able to like..haul off and kock a few people around. maybe I can get thier milk money too."

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): Well she was stupid....she basically insulted the Fenrir by implying there questions was stupid when she was the one bugging them. But....I don't like em cutting her tongue or backhanding her when she peggers either.

Ianthe Rumshoe: "yeah, but does that give them liscence to discipline anyone 'lower' than them if they don't like what they're saying?" She doesn't seem to like this idea. Maybe some more greek training is in order.

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): I'll take to them....and Ari. We might have to bring a case before the TC for a "cub" under our tribes...judgement. Though in essense you do realize Cindy is barely *hand gestures* This side of ronin.

Cindy Ramirez: Linda>> *blinks* Bugging them? They were fuckin with the General... I asked what they were doing.... it was a civil question... they coulda said "hey we're changin the oil to appologize to the spirit" and I'da benn like OK and walked away.... they had to be dicks about it tho...... *sighs* Nevermind... you don't give a shit... just forget I said anything....

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): Theres a law for that..."respect those beneath you all are of Gaia."

Georgia Hooper: *Looks back and forth between Linda and Cindy and Ianthe, and takes a drink of everclear*

Ianthe Rumshoe: "maybe. But just this side of ronin is so much better than just this side of a Spiral..."

Rudy "Nine Iron" McMurdo: *Stands up and walks over* Linda, it sounds like the case is well, kinda airtight... I think you're bein a bit unfair to her, don't you think? What happened to "family" and bein united?

Ianthe Rumshoe: "And she's ~our~ cub. I respect them when they do right by us, to be sure. But I'm not sure how I feel about them hurting so many of us all the time."

Georgia Hooper: *Passes the everclear to Cindy* Ah'll hep ya stay in the family.

Cindy Ramirez: *leans back against Cap... sighing*

Cindy Ramirez: Georgia>> thanks... I'm pregnant tho *nods to the liquor*

Georgia Hooper: Cindy> Lil bit never killed no one.

Cindy Ramirez: Georgia>> I'd rather not chance it... *touches her stomach* I need this to get back in the tribe....

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): *looks at Rudy* I used to care about that one, I used to give advice, tried to help her along. Any time she was asked to do something more then eat food and hang around...she complained, she weedled, or did a crappy job. Not quite a crime...I know. We all know our...sexual habits aint that big a deal provided we keep them under wraps. She diddles with my pack theurge...but then goes yapping. I learn of it at a moot, where I think my packs going to get kudos for some fine recon work we I get to watch my pack theurge and her busted down to cub. Yes boys and girls hot lezbo action breaks the litany. After that...I still her advice how to get back with rat. She follows it for a few weeks and then slacks off again. The family also cuts those off that drag us down eventually. Half a year and still a cub. How long should we wait?

Georgia Hooper: *Shrugs at this weird logic and puts it away*

Ianthe Rumshoe: She glances at Linda.

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): But I know it's the consesus that we don't right her off yet. Danni was certainly tolerant. Just, she couldn't even go get help when my packmate was choking and close to spazzing on kin....she ran to protect her child. But what about the others? You can run while going to get help. She only thinks of herself.

Rudy "Nine Iron" McMurdo: But two things. a) Does any of that have to do with this? and b) She's still fuckin family. Sounds ta me you're mostly pissed about the loss of face to your pack.

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): *tries to calm down*

Georgia Hooper: Linda> Sounds ta me like family oughta all pitch in an' help fix her then. All o us.

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): You just got here. You didn't have to live with this....but right the problem at hand...

Cindy Ramirez: *sighs and pulls her knees to her chest... maybe coming here was a bad idea after all*

Rudy "Nine Iron" McMurdo: *Shrugs* Sometimes a new look does wonders.

Ianthe Rumshoe: She moves around a little, standing supportively near her Alpha. "Maybe she takes a little longer to learn from her mistakes. aybe she doesn't realize that things would go worse for her in another tribe. " She's watching Cindy as she speaks, and nodds at Georgia.

Wields-Plastic-Death (FMT): *looks up* ~ws~ Cindy is Momma Rat's decision now. No good arguin' with it.

Rudy "Nine Iron" McMurdo: Geez, 's kinda bad when the Ahroun hasta play Phillie.

Ianthe Rumshoe: She looks at Rudy, curiuosly. "meaning?"

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): *nods* I've seen elders smack a cub or Cliath for mouthing off but even I...with what was told...don't see where Cindy went so far as to earn that. A simple shut the fuck up would have done. Any order would have done...her being a cub she has to obey...well hell anyone except maybe kin.

Rudy "Nine Iron" McMurdo: *Chuckles at Ianthe* I'm supposed ta be the one the Phillie is calming down, not vice versa.

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): Meaning for just arriving and not fully understanding our shit, hes deciding because I've been pretty damn patient with him, he decides to rub it in. And dispite him being family....I will remind him of my rank now so maybe he gets a clue to shut up while hes ahead.

Ianthe Rumshoe: She grins a bit. "Oh. gotcha." She glances back at Linda. "I'm also thinking that on the heels of thier recdent slew of reprimands, this one more might not do any good. We should speak with an elder. There has to be some way of meting out some kind of compensation for this."

Georgia Hooper: *Rubs her nose to hide the smile at Linda's subtle advice.*

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): And what elders do we have? The Don of the Walkers has all but washed his hands of our sept politics.

Rudy "Nine Iron" McMurdo: *Sighs, and shakes his head, turning ta go* Fine then. That's what I get for helpin.

Ianthe Rumshoe: "Well it'll haveta wait until we have one. Maybe we could say something abou it at the next moot: Suggest that punishments of any type need to be run through Steeleyes first, or you get equal punishment."

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): *thinks of something* I admit for a solid year, even before Cindy's more public screwup to trying to guide her along and to help her. My major anger is because I feel Cindy betrayed me dispite all my efforts. Well Rudy...I know shes found some protection among the FMT but why don't you try to guide her pack into rats good graces. Make her back into a Gnawer I aint angry to call family.

Cindy Ramirez: Linda>> I got a question... why do you and Cassy both assume I hang out with the Throwdown for 'protection'?

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): Now the Fenrir....oi....that was fucked up. How do we get redress for Cindy?

Rudy "Nine Iron" McMurdo: You're tellin me to try and fix an entire pack?

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): Because it's the first Garou thing you done in a long time....sought out a pack for friendship and protection. *uncharacteristly gentle* Might not be your motive but it's what it in effect offers you.

Cindy Ramirez: ((Rudy>> I think 'pack' shouda been 'back'))

Wields-Plastic-Death (FMT): *growls at Rudy* ~ws~ nothin' wrong with the throwdown!

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): Nope....just Cindy.

Ianthe Rumshoe: ((she meant "Back into Rat's good graces" not "pack" I re-read the sentance until I understood myself.))

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): I'll even try to give her another chance. Not an easy thing for me.

Cindy Ramirez: Linda>> *softly* They are my friends... I care about them and they care about me... but I'm not in it for protection.... they're my friends... prolly the best friends I got...

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): (in other words to get Cindy from cub back to Gnawer Cliath)

Cap Rountree (Alpha, Foggy Mountain Throwdown): *Listens, thinking.*

Ianthe Rumshoe: She shruggs. "Redress should be disussed with the other holders of sept office. I'm not sure they can be meted a punishment that'll bother them like that though. neither can Cindy really be rewarded as compensation..someone else's screwup doesn't mean you get a present..but there's gotta be something that can be done for her."

Rudy "Nine Iron" McMurdo: *Decides to play her game.. He stands proudly* Fine, I'll see what I can do. I'll be busy with my own pack but Cindy, you have my help in doing whatever you need to do. *Knight complex starting to kick in*

Georgia Hooper: *Gapes at Ianthe. She's like a TV lawyer, but for real!*

Cindy Ramirez: Rudy>> *blinks...* Um.... OK... thanks...

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): I guess we better seperate the two issues...Cindys status and the Fenrir thing. I'm thinking *sighs* we use Twomoons again as highest ranking philodox who gives a damn...if his advice is to use Ari as TC thats all good. But if we do...*looks at the tribe* we'll have to suck up whatever judgement is made. I'll back the tribe on this by saying I relented about her running and not getting help in that instance with the kin and my packmate...because she needed the protection of the sept for her young'n. I did not encourage her to be let back in to have her tongue ripped our or to have her smacked around....not when simple words and orders woulda cut it....this sound OK?

Rudy "Nine Iron" McMurdo: *Rudy nods to Cindy* No problem.

Cindy Ramirez: Linda>> Twomoons was there... all he said was if they were gonna smack me up to tell everyone why they were doin it so the Throwdown wouldn't try to beat their asses

Ianthe Rumshoe: "That makes sense as an opening arguement. But what can be done for her? could we ask that no one, on pain of punishment, be allowed to physicly punish her without Steel's consent until after she delivers? this gives her time to prove herself to us again, and it also protects the child."

Cindy Ramirez: Linda>> Then he told Cap to shut me up so I wouldn't get myself hurt again...

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): *looks at Cindy* Hes usually the first to defend when the Fenrir cross the line. While I believe I have to wonder is there more to this? What information are we missing that would cause Twomoons to be content to sit idle?

Ianthe Rumshoe: She glances at Cindy and nodds. "He was prolly thinking back to the fact that he got his damn arms ripped off by them and it took forever to see any justice about that too."

Cindy Ramirez: Linda>> Maybe he didn't think they crossed the line.... where I'm concerned at least....

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): *looks at Cindy* And if I do find out you are using your condition to give free reign to your mouth or to give folks attitude....well there are other ways to get at you besides physical. Do watch your words.

Rudy "Nine Iron" McMurdo: (Hmm.. I should run. Dinner sounds really good right now.. )

Rudy "Nine Iron" McMurdo: And Linda, I will stand my word, you said to help her, and I will.

Ianthe Rumshoe: She smiles, glad Linda caught that.

Cindy Ramirez: Linda>> I'll admit.. I shot my mouth off.... but only cause they were rude to me first... I was just defending myself... if they say shit to me am I just s'posed to take it and say "thank you Rhya"?

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): You can try....but like when I was helping her. Much lies in her own actions. We can't do the work FOR her. Though we can give advice. But good luck.

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): *looks at Cindy as if her IQ really is zero* You are a cub...unfortunately for you...that is exactly how it is.

Ianthe Rumshoe: She offers indy her opinoin. "Well. You're forgetting a few things.'re a cub. You don't have to like what hey say, but sometimes, you may have to take it. There's a reason the spirits won't show Cubs how to use Gifts and there's a reason they aren't in a Tribe..they haven't eaqrned the respect of proving themselves. Now do you see why that was such a punishment?"

Rudy "Nine Iron" McMurdo: Linda, I would ask one thing though...

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): Worse your a cub for a second time. The tolerances we permit the firstchanged do not apply to you as much. "should" know better.

Cindy Ramirez: Linda>> I've been around other cubs before.... I've never seen one other that got so much shit for lookin at someone cross eyed....

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): That I lay off her? I'll try. *sighs* or is there something else?

Rudy "Nine Iron" McMurdo: Is there any way you could well, lay off her a bit? I know she's bein' punished and the history and all that, but if we're trying ta help it dosen't stand to keep putting her down. I still would like to be a Guardian but if you're gonna play hardass all the way to warder, well....

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): I am a hardass. But I'll try to lay off her for a bit.

Rudy "Nine Iron" McMurdo: And so am I.. But my reading has shown there are times when even hardasses can be civil. *Smirks and grabs up his bag* Enjoy the JD..

Ianthe Rumshoe: Cindy>" Sadly, you're going to get shit, especially from them. Every Get I've ever met" and she makes that sound like there must have been quite a few "has been close to a card carrying member of some hate organization. Not only did you break a societal taboo, but you broke one within normal society and garou society. They are not going to respect you at all, until they have a reason to. And maybe not even then. But Linda's got "put back a grade" and because of that, you don't get to do arts and crafts with the other kids."

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): *looks at Cindy* Those cubs have the excuse of being firstchanged, confused, often traumatized. You went through a rite of passage once, you once stood in the ranks of claiths. You should know all our ways. Thus there is little excuse for your behavior. The sept will be harder on you because it's your second time as a cub. I'm surprised you need this explained. *for once trying not to be scornful*

Cindy Ramirez: Linda>> *sighs* alright...

Rudy "Nine Iron" McMurdo: *Walks out of the building, having a feeling that this place is working wonders for his temper*

Georgia Hooper: *Once again in awe of how clear Ianthe makes things*

Rudy "Nine Iron" McMurdo: (See y'all later..)

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): So for you...when they say something mean...yes you should say "yes sir".

Rudy "Nine Iron" McMurdo: ~(GONE, like, extinct, baby)~

Cindy Ramirez: Linda>> What if someone threatens me?

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): *rubs her temples* This is what I'll do...but now that I realize some stuff this is how I predict it's going to go.....I go to Moony concerned at the violence meeted out to our expectant mother....Moony tells me she pulled tude and got punished. I point out it could have been verbal...he points out Cindy is a cub twice over and should no better. The Fenrir say they targeted the tongue because it won't harm the child. Maybe it goes to best they get another slap on the wrist...and thats the end of it.

Ianthe Rumshoe: She sits back to become ahrounishly quiet again. ((gotta sleep))

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): You say "yes sir" and then leave the area so you don't come to harm. If you feel it needs redress you go to the FMT or preferably...a Fostern. If you aint comfortable with me Steeleyes or something. Then we can figure out what to do. At this stage...don't have your mouth wright checks your body can't cash.

Ianthe Rumshoe: ((pooftas))

Cindy Ramirez: Linda>> There's no tellin when I'd come to harm... it was a vague *thinks* they said "You're not gonna be pregnant forever and the hicks aren't gonna be around 24/7 to protect you when it comes time to pay your dues".... basically watch my back cause I'm gonna get my ass kicked...

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): The tribe has convinced me to give you a true chance....but don't abuse it.

Cindy Ramirez: Linda>> I don't intent to abuse it... but I don't want to get abused either

Georgia Hooper: Cindy> Jus jump on in back o me any time and we'll get to the Warder together. Ah can handle it.

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): Right now I aint sure of what all happened...cuz no matter how good the account there is always several sides. Sounds to me like you overstepped your station and talked some shit. Unfortunately you being a cub twice over...yeah more or less they can say as they like to you. My advice is to lay low and shut up and maybe they'll forget about it.

Cindy Ramirez: Georgia>> The Warder? No offense but I'd feel safer stickin it out alone...

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): But I'll talk to Moony...with the threat as well.

Cindy Ramirez: Linda>> Ya... but it wasn't the Get that said that...

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): Oh?

Cindy Ramirez: Linda>> It was Cassy...

Georgia Hooper: *Scratches her chin, all weirded out that someone wouldn't go to the Warder for help. Maybe he's mean to Cindy too?*

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): Well my packmate I'll have to handle. But my same advice holds...shut up and lay low and maybe she'll forget. But she I can reign in if I decide it's warrented. So take the chance I am giving you very seriously.

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): I'm done here....

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): (goodnight)

Linda ~Hits head with pipe~ (S-E-D): *leaves*

Cindy Ramirez: Linda>> *nods* I figured you;d wanna handle it... 's why I told ya... and, for the record, I don't intend to fuck up again.. *looks up at Cap for a sec* I got people really believing in me and I'm not gonna let 'em down...

Cap Rountree (Alpha, Foggy Mountain Throwdown): *Nods, then looks around again at the others.* Anythin' else?

Georgia Hooper: *Takes a swig of everclear*

Wields-Plastic-Death (FMT): ~ws~ nope

Cindy Ramirez: Cap>> No, sir...

Cap Rountree (Alpha, Foggy Mountain Throwdown): *Chuckles.* Meant ever'one else, but it seems they're gone. Wal, long's I'm out of th'wind, I'm goin' to have another bite of that stew. I think I out-done m'self this time.

Cindy Ramirez: Cap>> That is really good! I'm gon' get s'more too

Georgia Hooper: None here.

Georgia Hooper: Woo, I better try it too.

Cindy Ramirez: ~~~End Archive~~~ ((HA! Didn't know I was archivin didja? DIDJA?? MUAHAHAHA!!...... um... sorry....))

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